Benjamin Belial

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  Former JWs' First Christmas

  by jschwehm in

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  hi gang:.

  i thought you guys would find this article interesting:.

  http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=6&art_id=31266.

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  Benjamin Belial

  With a screen name like Belial, I can't say I'm surprised.

  Kneel before your god.
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  Brand New Blood Card

  by PoppyR in

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  hubby has just come back from the service meeting where they have been handed out brand new style blood cards, now called 'advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment' .

  it's quite a bit different.

  and has the line on it about giving permission to the hospital liason committee to see your notes and medical records.. very scary stuff i think, and i certainly wont be filling one in.. i'm really short of time tonight, but will scan it in, along with the notes that go with it and try and post it some time over the next day or so if someone else doesn't beat me to it!.

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  Benjamin Belial

  The ad at the bottom of this page is for a guide to "Jewish Business Ethics." That must be about as short as the list of French war heroes.
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  Watchtower has been wheat with weeds?

  by Star Moore in

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  i have just left the org.

  after 26 years.

  i would like to make the point that the reason it is hard to leave the org.

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  Benjamin Belial

  Wheat with weeds? More like meat with seeds!

  Okay, sorry, that doesn't make sense. Think about it though.
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  Brush up on your Theocratic Warfare techniques!

  by Mysterious in

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  ah theocratic warfare, how we love to hate you.

  the more literature i see left out pointed in my direction, underlined or highlighted of course, the less i want to consider their point of view.

  it just reinforces my decision to leave even more.

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  Benjamin Belial

  Why is this surprising? They learned from the best.

  John 12 40 He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn–and I would heal them.
  
  2 Thessalonians 2 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

  Mark 4 10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that, “ ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’"

  Joshua 11 19 Except for the Hivites living in Gibeon, not one city made a treaty of peace with the Israelites, who took them all in battle. 20 For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.
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  Did God create good and evil?

  by THE SHOOTIST in

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  isaiah 45:7 says he did.

  gen. 3:16/17 says that he placed the tree of knowledge of good and bad in the middle of the garden.

  didn't god say in gen 3:22 that after man ate of the fruit he has become like us (the gods)knowing good and evil.

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  Benjamin Belial

  This is why I like the gnostic view a lot better. There is no "one" gnostic view, but the basics seem to be that the God of the Garden of Eden was actually a vicious sadistic bastard called the Demiurge, his proper name being Yaldabaoth. He was our creator. The world is so twisted and cruel because our creator is twisted and cruel. God didn't want us to have knowledge, but Satan came and offered it to us in the form of the fruit. Later he came in the form of Jesus, and Yaldabaoth had him killed in order to quiet him. However, Satan/Jesus switched places with another man, who was crucified in his place, while Jesus ran off laughing.

  So yeah. Gnosticism all the way. Seems to make more sense, aside from the whole killing an innocent man thing. That's not in all the texts though :P and may be rather rare. Most of the rest of it is pretty common Gnostic belief though. Constantine even had a temple to Sophia if I recall, who was Yaldabaoth's mother. (Yaldabaoth is not the true god, just a fake that Christians and Jews worship.)

  There are some very interesting things about Sophia but I'll save them for if anyone is interested.
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  Depression, Holidays & JW's

  by oldflame in

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  when you were a witness did you get depressed around the holidays ?

  tell me what your feelings were then and now.

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  Benjamin Belial

  How can you be depressed over something you never did? Ask a lonely virgin.
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  The Bottom Line

  by feelinsketchy in

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  not long ago i saw a post to the effect that the writer just doesn't care anymore about the dubs.

  i understand perfectly.

  i'll go a step further by saying that although i care about the damage caused by the borg to individuals and families, every experience is important and no doubt painful, for me there is something that hits me to the core.. the more important (to me anyway) work that is being done by this board and others like it is to proclaim (sorry about the language) that this group advocates the violent destruction of all except those that get to all the meetings and put in ten hours a month.

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  Benjamin Belial

  Actually I was always told quite clearly that non-JWs would be resurrected. Many who were seen by God as being fit for a second chance because they never heard his word, or had some problem that prevented them from understanding it, etc would be given a chance again.
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  Is that a Christmas Song?

  by Lilycurly in

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  i came home this morning and my mother and little brother started to hum a tune and asked me if it was a christmas song...turns out it was "carol of the bells".

  and my jw father had been whistling it the night before after he heard it on a commercial.

  when my mother asked him, isn't that a christmas song?

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  Benjamin Belial

  It's a seasonal song and so gets lumped in with Christmas carols.
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  JW Boycott Feb 06

  by yaddayadda in

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  how about every lurker on here and all others spreading the news that unhappy jw's worldwide are to do a general boycott of all jw related activities (meetings, fs, etc) in for the entire month of february 2006. would be interesting to see what happens to the us average publishers for that month.. power to the people!

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  Benjamin Belial

  Then I probably don't pay attention to them anyway. Major corporations are crushed the small businesses. I don't need to lift a finger.
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  Depression, Holidays & JW's

  by oldflame in

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  when you were a witness did you get depressed around the holidays ?

  tell me what your feelings were then and now.

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  Benjamin Belial

  I didn't get too depressed until I got older. Then it was my birthday that depressed me more than anything. Eventually Christmas came to depress me and I would spend it considering suicide. Now I just consider it all the time. Why limit myself to once a year, that's what I say.